Expiration Date (116.20)

Grace is throwing up in the bathroom when Ben arrives home. Ben is a nervous wreck looking through some papers, and freaks out Olive. According to the police report Griffin was underwater for 80 hours and 8 minutes. His death was exactly 80 hours and 8 minutes later.  Olive then realizes that June 2, 2024 is Ben, Michaela, and Cal’s expiration date. Peacock is Goddess Juno (June), Gemini Twins (2), Cal’s wooden dragon (2024). When Olive starts crying, and says they cannot tel Cal, he appears in the living room and says he already new, but did not know how to tell everyone. READ MORE

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No Secrets

Scene shifts to the Stone house where we see Grace throwing up in the toilet.

OLIVE: Mom! Dad’s home!

Ben is a nervous wreck looking through some papers


BEN: J-Just give me one second.

OLIVE: Dad what is it? You’re kind of freaking me out.

GRACE: No secrets, remember?

Ben’s Finding

BEN: According to the police report, Griffin was underwater for 82 hours and 8 minutes.

OLIVE: 8-2-8. That’s That’s really weird.

BEN: Hold on. According to the Medical Examiner’s report, his death was exactly 82 hours and 8 minutes later. So, the exact amount of time he was gone is the same the same exact amount of time he was alive again.

OLIVE: No, that has to be a coincidence. Right?

GRACE: Just Are you saying Griffin had some kind of expiration date?

OLIVE: What does that mean? Does that mean that you could have one, too?

GRACE: No. No. No. Griffin was evil. He was a criminal. Tell her, Ben.


BEN: Okay. We were gone for 2,03 days. Add that to our date of return

Olive’s Finding


Ben makes some calculations on paper while Olive walks over to her poster board and looks at he peacock, the petrograph of Gemini

OLIVE: June 2, 2024.

BEN: How did you get that so fast? It’s been right in front of us all along. The peacock goddess, Juno, June. The petrograph of the constellation Gemini, twins, represents the number 2. June, June 2nd.

GRACE: H-Honey, those could be representative – of any number of

OLIVE: No, no, no. I’m not done.

GRACE: Cal’s dragon?

OLIVE: Like you said, a wooden dragon.

GRACE: It’s a craft project. Art the Dragon

OLIVE: The year of the wood dragon in the Chinese zodiac?

BEN: I got the exact same date. June 2, 2024. She’s right.

Ben holds up the piece of paper with his calculations.

The Symbols’ Explanations Not Entirely Satisfying

The explanation seemed like a puzzle designed by a history teacher rather than a metaphysical omniscience, but the pieces falling into place still gave the finale an appropriate amount of gravitas. The problem was that the wooden dragon, the petrograph, and even the unconvincingly exact nature of Griffin’s time of death on the coroner’s report were ultimately disconnected, acting more as convenient narrative devices rather than a carefully woven tapestry of mystical symbols and messages.

SOURCE: Michael Ahr (Den of Geek!)

Cal’s Finding


GRACE: No. [VOICE BREAKING] No. I just I just got you back. I ca I can’t lose you. I can’t lose you.

OLIVE: We can’t tell Cal. He’s spent five years [VOICE BREAKING] waiting to die. Please, just promise me you’re not gonna tell him. He can’t go through this again. It’s not fair.

Cal then appears from the living room.

CAL: It’s okay, Ollie. I know. I just didn’t know how to tell you.

As dramatic music plays, we see him holding in his hand the cemetery drawing he made earlier. 

116.20a Olive Art the Dragon


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7 thoughts on “Expiration Date (116.20)

  1. Also while Juno=June the Peacock itself= resurrection they didn’t say that. They left that out completely I learned it out of my reading

  2. What does the expiration date mean? Does it mean that Ben, Cal, and Michaela are perfect human-replicated clones of themselves (with special abilities) … programmed with a life span equal to the time their original bodies mysteriously disappeared?

    If so, will their original bodies miraculously return on June 2, 2024? Or did they actually die April 7, 2013 and were supernaturally returned, and are destined to die once again when the clock runs out on their 5 years, 6 months, and 28 days “second chance?”

  3. Olive then realizes that June 2, 2024 is Ben, Michaela, and Cal’s expiration date.”

    Does the June 2, 2024 expiration date actually mean that Ben, Michaela, and Cal died on April 7, 2013? Previously, from the day Cal disappeared until the day he returned, Olive was absolutely certain he was still “alive.”

    During the meatloaf dinner with Danny (105.13), she emphatically said to him about Cal, “He’s not dead. He’s just lost.” And years later, she assured her father Ben (102.19) that, “I knew Cal wasn’t dead … I don’t know if it was some kind of twin thing, but I could I could feel him alive. And the therapist, the counselors at school, Mom, everyone blew it off, blew me off, but I knew.”

    If Olive knew beyond all doubt that Cal was alive and not dead during the time of his disappearance, why would she now blindly believe he will die on June 2, 2024 … based on her mystical symbol-puzzle prediction?

  4. “What if the passengers all died in a crash immediately following the turbulence?”

    This is probably the correct theory as to what happened. I must admit that I’m disappointed with this theory. I was desiring for something a little more creative that what Lost gave us.

    For example, l desperately wanted the passengers to have been “suspended in time and space” or “placed in cryogenic units” where there were experimented on for nefarious government or other purposes.

    As Saanvi revealed (103.27): “If we were taken close to death extremely close, and then brought back—if the faucet of blood circulation has been turned off and then suddenly it was turned on high, that’s what it would look like.”

    I have always thought the story involving the disappearance of the 828 passengers was about a near-death experience, not real (tv) death. But the questions you pose and the expiration death date are strong indications that everyone aboard Flight 828 died on April 7, 2013.

    Which would also mean the Major isn’t chasing the Holy Grail, but is blindly searching for something that resides either inside or outside the Gates of Hell.

  5. “Since their expiration dates would have been the same as Michaela, Ben & Cal’s, this seems to suggest that the passengers can all die before their dates.”

    When it comes to Taylor and Stein, I would hope that dying before their expiration dates is more than a suggestion. If they and other passengers can die more than once and continue to be resurrected; IMO the entire premise of the story’s plot would become immersed in absurdity.

  6. What if the passengers all died in a crash immediately following the turbulence? And their 5 1/2 year return is like Griffin’s revival, on borrowed time? They get back the time between their death and resurrection.

    1. Who will use it to do good and help others?
    2. Who will use it for selfish gains?
    3. Who will flip out and kill themselves?

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