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(@charles)
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Apr 1, 2020 12:04 am  

Where is Bill Daly and Fiona Clarke? The assumption is they have flown to the future in order to save the lives of the 828 passengers who currently live in the past. Here's what's wrong with that false assumption:

If Daly was correct, he and Clarke will arrive in the future in 2024; the year of the passengers Death Date. What does their future arrival have to do with solving the Death Date today? What exactly is the connection between Daly, Clarke, and the passengers' Death Date, if any? It's all connected, right?

In the meantime, where in the hell are Daly and Clarke? Stuck in some kind of time vortex? Undergoing physical examinations by wormhole aliens? Sailing across a sea of stars in an alternate universe with Yusuv Al-Zuras?

If Daly and Clarke aren't dead, then where in the hell are they?


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Apr 9, 2020 2:00 am  

What happened to Olive and Danny's mountain climbing trip to Acadia National Park last July? I'm glad the trip didn't happen. This is a dropped storyline which makes the point that too of the unnecessary "feel good" plots end up being quietly discarded. And the plots should be discarded. It also proves that 5-year plans aren't etched in stone and can easily be changed.

My fingers are crossed. I hope the producers and writers unleash their full creative potential in S3; and make the show's fan's proud. The fans deserve it. They're been loyal and supportive.


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Apr 16, 2020 10:20 pm  

Grace received a Calling, "Open her eyes," when she was pregnant. Did she ever fulfill/solve/heed/resolve this Calling? Apparently, Grace hasn't had a Calling since giving birth to Eden. Is it possible the Callings Grace had have always belonged to Eden; and the "stop" and "open her eyes" Callings were instructing Eden to "stop Grace" and "open Grace's eyes?"

What about Grace's Callings involving the visions of gargoyle images? They should probably be filed in the same category as the visions of the wolf and peacock. That is, filed in the same "who the hell knows what's going on with Callings" category of visions and images.


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Jun 18, 2020 8:35 pm  

The following unanswered questions are the main reason I'll be watching the show in S3. Before I get to the core of my comment, I must first confess: sci-fi is my favorite genre of entertainment when it's done right. When sci-fi is not done right, it's like eating food that's either under or overcooked, e.g., a steak that barely touches the grill or one that's burned to a crisp.

Anyway, in episode 9: Ben, Grace, Cal, and TJ were standing in Al-Zuras' boat where it was storming, and had a joint calling where they all witnessed Flight 828 fly overhead. The unanswered questions are:

  1. Was this the same Flight 828 in which Ben, Cal, and TJ were passengers?
  2. Or was this a different Flight 828 (from an alternate universe) with different versions of Ben, Cal, and TJ onboard?
  3. Are there two Flight 828's, each from a different time/space continuum?
  4. If there were different planes, did the two Flight 828's crossover to the other's time/space continuum?
  5. Or did both Flight 828's end up in the same time/space continuum?
  6. And what does the tail section wreckage discovered by the Cubans in the S2 finale have to do with the Holy Grail?

The best part of any meal is always the main course. Serving too many appetizers and keeping what's being cooked a secret will not make the main course any more enjoyable. If anything, not knowing what food is being served can be a turn-off. Everyone may not like what's being served, but they still want to know. So, producers and writers, it's time to reveal the meal's main course and serve the fans all of the goodies they deserve.


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Jun 21, 2020 10:15 am  

1. My short answer is I don't know. The underlying question to me is why is Grace in that tableau. Albeit she is embodying Eden's calling, neither were on flight 828 so they have nothing to do with the space/time anomaly involving the plane and the ship.

2. I'm not ready to buy into the parallel/alternate continuums just yet. I know the showrunner wants us to believe the tail section pulled up by the Cuban fishermen is the 828 of 04/07/2013 but photographic evidence from the show proves that is it not. Maybe the "Oncers" and "Teamers" who do not pay attention my buy it but people who are into the actual show know it's either not the same plane or the production company is grossly incompetent.

3. I'm still not buying into that.

4. Same answer. Not ready to accept the premise.

5. As far as I know the actual "Manifest Holy Grail" has not been established. Is it Cal? Is it Eden? The Major said "could be." Is she really dead? Was that a ruse? Death faking is not a new technique in this show.

If only the writers and showrunner had a clue even what to reveal. I don't think they do. They read social media, blogs, forums, and listen to whoever and seem to go with the flow. The "continuity train" has left the station and the writers and the showrunner were left on the platform.

WTF Over


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Jun 21, 2020 3:21 pm  

Thanks, @tjlevi.

If only the writers and showrunner had a clue even what to reveal. I don't think they do.

Agreed. The story itself is all over the place. There are separate and distinct storylines involving the disappearances of Flight 828, Zeke Landon, James Griffin, and Yusuv Al-Zuras. What's next? Extraterrestrial invaders from the Bermuda Triangle? Previously deceased returnees returning from the dead as flesh-eating Zombies? Everything that has happened; happened in Michaela's dream?

As you've always done 100% of the time, you've hit the nail on the head ... with a piledriver. "The "continuity train" has left the station and the writers and showrunner were left on the platform" ... alone in the dark ... desperately trying to see if there's a light at the end of the invisible tunnel.


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Jul 3, 2020 6:35 pm  

Although I doubt it will happen, but two questions can be easily answered in S3.

First, why didn't Fiona Clarke have callings? She was a passenger on Flight 828. She was also present when Ben, Michaela, Autumn, and Saanvi simultaneously experienced group pain from the experiment being conducted at the Red Hook facility (109.9):

Cal senses something is about to happen. Laurence is being told to proceed by an unidentified “Major” who tells him to double the charge. This time, not only does Cal experience pain, so does Ben, Michaela, Autumn and Saanvi.  Vance watches and says, “What the hell?” Meanwhile, Cal is drawing a picture of Red Hook as blood drips from his nose.

Fiona Clarke didn't experience any pain? There was no blood dripping from her nose. Why? This is an easy question to answer. Simply provide the explanation in an upcoming episode ... unless there is no answer.

Second question. Why did the airplane (Flight 828) blow up on the tarmac? Did the callings itself or themselves do it? Which would mean the callings are some kind of collective invisible entity? If this collective invisible entity itself wasn't physically responsible for blowing up the airplane without help from any non-extraterrestrial, then who was responsible? The Major's secret organization? An irate passenger? Who?

There's a huge difference between not providing answers to unanswered questions than leaving unanswered questions, unanswered ... forever.


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