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Are Fiona Clarke and Bill Daley dead or did they fly through time?  

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Jan 15, 2019 1:44 am  

Based own his own aviation research, Capt Daley assumed that he and Dr. Clarke would fly through time into the future, 2024 to be precise. But it's possible they could have also flown back into the past?

That is, if they aren't already dead. It was suggested the aircraft they were on was shot down by F-16 fighter jets. But there was no confirmation their bodies or aircraft wreckage was found. 

There was also no valid reason to shoot down the aircraft. It wasn't a threat, nor was public safety an issue.

But if they are dead, will the history of their efforts to discover the truth be falsified by government conspirators? Will they be now both become the public scapegoats for Flight 828's disappearance. Will they also be labeled the Crackpot Pilot and Mad Scientist?

Will their actions be alleged to be those of terrorists? Will there be claims that Daley and Clarke has placed explosives and unknown chemicals on the plane. And were targeting some made-up location?

On the other hand, are Clarke and Daley really dead? Or did they fly to another time and another place? Will we see them again? Or have we seen them for the last time? What do you think?


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Jan 22, 2019 1:10 pm  

But it was a good guess. I also thought there was a possibility that Fiona Clarke could have been the Major.

Then there's also a possibility that Fiona Clarke and the Major were college roommates or classmates. Or colleagues who work in the same field of study. Or ex-lovers. Or current lovers.

I'm guessing that Clarke and the Major are connected in a major way. Pun intended.


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Mar 13, 2019 1:47 pm  

If Fiona Clarke and Bill Daly return from the dead on or before June 2, 2024, will their return make the expiration death date for the other Flight 828 passengers null and void? Will their return end the Callings?


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Mar 16, 2019 8:30 pm  

I think that their expiration date might be reset but I doubt it will affect anyone else.


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Mar 25, 2019 3:48 pm  

What would be the relevance of Fiona Clarke and Bill Daly returning from the unknown beyond? Would their return signal the end of the world? Or would their return usher in a New Age of Peace and Prosperity for humankind?


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Apr 26, 2019 1:01 pm  

If Fiona and Daly did fly through time, the chances of them returning to show any time soon is next to zero, i.e., if they return at all. Frank Deal, who portrays Bill Daly, is involved in other projects, including an upcoming television series ... The Outsider.

Francesca Faridany, who plays Fiona Clarke, hasn't been as busy as Deal, but who knows what she's currently doing. Or will be doing in the future. Or if her schedule will coincide with Deal's in order to film future episodes of Manifest together.

The roles of Clarke and Daly aren't the only ones affected. Elizabeth Marvel (The Major) will appear in 8-episodes of the upcoming television series Unbelievable. Marquis Rodriguez (Aaron Glover) is headed for stardom on the upcoming and Untitled Game of Thrones Prequel.

Casting recurring and guest stars on Manifest is like herding cats.


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Apr 26, 2019 6:22 pm  

Frank has only signed on for two episodes it seems, and it likely won't be filmed for awhile, so he'll be okay unless Untitled Gamer Comedy Show gets picked up and it turns out he's a regular (which I doubt). Francesca will be likely be fine for the time being.

Marvel is going to be really hard, but since they probably had some sort of contract for her Manifest must have been okay with this meaning they plan on shoving this amazing actress and interesting character in the background again,


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May 17, 2019 9:39 pm  

Maybe the Season 2 push back to midseason was due to Marvel filming Unbelievable and the fact that they really needed her to actually appear this season (I can only hope).


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May 24, 2019 5:41 pm  

Agreed. They must to do whatever's needed to make sure Marvel appears in season 2. Pushing season 2 back to midseason is not a problem. Premiering in midseason also means not having to compete with Monday Night Football.

As it pertains to the storyline, it appears that Faridany's return in her role as Fiona Clarke is highly unlikely ... unless she's needed in flashbacks. Without Marvel and Faridany's presence, the show will lose a lot of the energy and buzz it had generated in season 1.


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May 24, 2019 8:05 pm  

Until Daly and Fiona fly back in they aren't really needed to appear outside of small cameos.


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Jul 18, 2019 4:44 pm  

I must confess. This "from out of the blue skies" Bill Daly and Fiona Clarke mysterious disappearance storyline really "ticked" me off. Why? Because if left too many unanswered questions about Fiona Clarke.

  • She was on Flight 828. But she didn't have callings. Why?
  • How did (or why didn't) she know about callings and their connection to her "human collective consciousness" research? After all, is she not the best known authority in her scientific field on the "human collective consciousness?" (107.16 - She knows nothing about callings) (109.10 - she's concerned about her research being involved).
  • Wasn't she somewhat curious or at least concerned that everyone on Flight 828 possibly experienced callings except for her? Or did/does she know more that she revealed?
  • Also, without Clarke's presence, the torture plots, experiment on, brain-dead 828 passengers/patients storyline becomes an afterthought.
  • Besides, what was the point of Clarke disappearing? Not to show up again until the series finale in 2024.?

Clarke and Daly may or may not be dead, but one thing is certain ... their storyline continues to "fly through time" unless it crashes as the result of poor writing and or bad storytelling.


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Sep 19, 2019 3:50 pm  

Here's something to consider (from Saanvi's timeline):

Passengers experience turbulence (101.2) when the plane entered a storm which came out of nowhere and which was not on any of the charts (111.1).

... and ...

There was no time for the pilot, Captain Bill Daly, to get over it and fly above the storm, so he went through maintaining a level altitude., and accelerating the speed of the plane to 300 knots.

... and ...

As he did this, a bright light filled the cock pit (111.1).

... and ...

Flight 828 disappears from radar (105.1).

When Bill Daly accelerated 828 to 300 knots, a bright light filled the cock pit and the plane disappeared from radar. This is valuable information when it comes to understanding exactly what happened to Flight 828. As a longtime sci-fi fan, I absolutely want to know what happened to Fiona Clarke and Bill Daly.

Here's my problem. Clarke and Daly disappeared off the coast of New York. Flight 828 disappeared in or near the Bermuda Triangle. I understand we'll dealing with science fiction. And when it comes to science fiction, we all have to suspend reality and logic. But if time travel is as easily replicated as Bill Daly believes, what prevents others who are more technical and competent than Daly to predict occurrences of dark lightning and engage in time travel on a daily basis? Pun intended.

Please understand, I'm not piling additional criticism on the showrunner and writers for not providing any road map to follow in the direction where they're trying to take us. But they haven't provided any road map ... at least, not yet. That's what's frustrating. Clarke and Daly disappear. Landon and Griffin appear in OMG fashion. And it's quietly left up in the air what happened to Clarke and Daly ... and how exactly dark lightning caused Landon and Griffin to accelerate and time travel

No one is expecting reality-based logical answers. But imaginative and creative sci-fi answers are expected ... nothing more and nothing less will be acceptable.  Btw I continue to believe that Manifest has the potential to be great. I must confess, however, the lack of passion and attention to detail when it comes to the sci-fi aspects of the show by those responsible for producing it distress me ... distress me very much.


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