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Jan 15, 2019 3:01 am  

Fiona Clarke seems to be have been on the side of the good guys. She told Bill Daley she knew nothing about Dark Lightning. She was probably being truthful. She also said that she was kept out of the loop about her research being used by the Singularity Project. Again, she was apparently telling the truth.

During Daley and Ben's aircraft simulation flights, with the addition of the computerized weather information provided by Dr. Roger Mencin, the Dark Lightning effects contained in the storm on April 7, 2013 were precisely replicated. The flight simulations, however, didn't conclusively prove that Dark Lightning is what caused the plane to travel through time to 2018.

According to Ben, it was not possible for the flight simulator to physically fly through time. But the flight simulations did repeatedly show that Flight 828 crashed while flying through the Dark Lightning-simulated storm. And let's not forget Saanvi Bahl. Her research discovered evidence of a near-death test result that was experienced by her and other passengers aboard Flight 828.

Fiona Clarke also said what happened to Flight 828 wasn't accidental. Which means someone had intentionally planned what happened, causing both the plane's disappearance and creating changes which allowed the collective consciousness of selected passengers to meld.

Was Dark Lightning solely responsible for Flight 828 flying through time? Or was it only the catalyst for something bigger? Something more important? Something so more important that it literally has the advanced technological expertise to instantaneously reprogram and connect the collective consciousness of selected individuals. While simultaneously stopping time.

Is Dark Lightning responsible for Flight 828's time travel? Or is it simply the key to opening the door to time travel? Was Dark Lightning responsible for the passengers near-death experience? Or was it something else?

Did Dark Lightning cause Flight 828 to travel on April 7, 2013 into the future where the collective consciousness of passengers were programmed? And then returned the plane to the past on November 4, 2018? What do you think? 


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Mar 25, 2019 8:16 pm  

Dark Lightning ... Callings ... the human collective consciousness. What do these phenomena have in common? Time travel? Maybe ... maybe not.

Cal Stone painfully suffered the physical debilitating effects of Marko Valeriev's torture (106.10) and Zeke Landon's frostbite (110.30). But he only sensed Georgia (105.23) and Vance (107.25) in an empathetic and nonthreatening manner. Marko and Zeke both had experienced time travel. Georgia and Vance had not.

What does all of this mean? I don't have a clue. But three things are certain:

  1. Something or someone is responsible for controlling Dark Lightning.
  2. Something or someone is behind the communications from which the Callings originate. 
  3. Something or someone is causing time travel.

These three things are inexplicably linked, but are somehow mutually exclusive. When it's all said and done, which came first the chicken or the egg, i.e., time travel or the Callings associated with the time travel.


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Mar 26, 2019 2:38 pm  

I think that his understanding of Georgia and Vance is something more like the Callings everyone else has than the connection between Marko and Zeke.


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Apr 24, 2019 3:28 pm  

I think that his understanding of Georgia and Vance is something more like the Callings everyone else has than the connection between Marko and Zeke.

According to a Jeff Rake interview, his plan for season 2 is to deal with the "what problems" 828 passengers face, not the "why and how causes" behind the passengers' actual disappearance and return. This would leave questions surrounding the origin and purpose of dark lightning unanswered.

That is:

  1. Is dark lightning nothing more than a dimensional key that locks and unlocks a door in time and space?
  2. What is the connection between dark lightning and callings?
  3. Are dark lightning and callings random occurrences? If not, who or what is the mysterious entity or entities controlling two these two otherworldly phenomena?

I know. Jeff Rake and his writers enjoy "shades of gray" storytelling and want fans to engage in unfounded speculation. But the overuse and abuse of "shades of gray" storytelling and unfounded fan speculation have limits.

It's time for some answers. Not answers to everything. But it's time for some solid, concrete answers. No more questions. There have already been enough questions to last more than 10-seasons worth of episodes. It's time to start connecting the dark lightning and callings dots in season 2, not in season 3 or beyond. My patience has already gone far beyond what's expected of an attentive fan.


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Apr 26, 2019 5:51 pm  

They are trying to make a new Lost, but only the popular perception of Lost, with a great beginning, awful ending and no answers or resolution whatsoever, when really Lost answered all the most important questions in a clear and understandable way, as well as wrapping up all the characters major plots.


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Apr 28, 2019 1:25 pm  

They definitely got off to a great beginning. There were a few OMG moments throughout the season. But at season's end, many of the storylines had become mired and entangled in disjointed and discombobulated plots. Instead of trying to make a new Lost, perhaps they should try to emulate the writing, storytelling, and character development of showrunners like Lisa Joy and Jonathan Nolan at Westworld.


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Apr 30, 2019 2:41 pm  

In fairness to everyone, I should explain what I mean by what I earlier wrote in the quoted statement below. Please understand that I'm not simply engaging in hyperbole, but basing my opinions on what I see on-screen from my own perspective. 

But at season's end, many of the storylines had become mired and entangled in disjointed and discombobulated plots.

Dark lightning is somehow allegedly responsible for causing the passengers on Flight 828, Zeke Landon, and James Griffin to time travel. Flight 828 disappeared in or near the Bermuda Triangle in April 2013. Zeke disappeared in a cave in upstate New York in December 2017, and Griffin disappeared in New York City's East River in December 2018.

Does the Aftershock theory story-line, based on Zeke and Griffin's resurrections, conclusively explain the genesis of dark lightning? Or do the story-lines depicting their characters do nothing other than add more shade to the ever-increasing, ongoing, intentionally undefined showrunner manufactured "shades of gray?"

Cal Stone experienced and shared the symptoms of Marko Valeriev and Zeke Landon's excruciating pain linked via some unknown callings psycho-mechanism. However, Cal never experienced Griffin's pain. Is there a reasonable or logical explanation when it comes to understanding the connection of callings between various characters within the overall story, or is it something that's simply not important?

When Cal looked out of the plane's window during the plane's mysterious disappearance (and or mysterious reappearance), he said it was all connected. Yet, he doesn't know the identity of the "mystery figure" in his drawing from episode 1? He once shared an extremely strong mind-meld with Marko. Did he also experience Marko and the other comatose patients "herky jerky" "OMG what just happened" callings-like movement at Fiona Clarke's beach house location? 

Then too, what really happened to Fiona Clarke and Bill Daly? Did they die or are they destined to be resurrected ... again? If so, when and where? In the future or in the past? And why did  Clarke not experience the pain of the other "callings gifted" passengers during the "government covered up" Red Hook experiments? Also, how is Clarke connected to the Major when it comes to their involvement with both Laurence Belson and the Singularity Project?

Too many characters with disjointed story-lines. Too many unresolved open-ended story-lines. Too many entangled "shades of gray" story-lines. Too much discombobulation. JMO.


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May 24, 2019 1:24 pm  

The mystery behind the plane's disappearance could be the brainchild of some weird mad genius sitting behind a keyboard in his mom's basement (think Live Free or Die Hard). The callings are possibly broadcasts from some unidentified self-righteous AI computer entity (think Eagle Eye).

Dark Lightning occurs when weird mad genius' computer system is hacked by AI computer entity's malware ... resulting in time-distortions. I know. What I've described is absurd. But as a fan, what else can I do? Request in writing that Jeff Rake, his writers, or someone associated with the series discuss and reveal on this forum what actually happened?


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May 25, 2019 4:14 pm  

... someone associated with the series discuss and reveal on this forum what actually happened?

That would be nice. But it's not gonna happen. The executives with offices on the top floors at WB and NBC would have a heart attack if Rake and others showed up here and spilled the beans.

The callings are possibly broadcasts from some unidentified self-righteous AI computer entity (think Eagle Eye).

Here's what I do think. A theory that makes sense. As least, it does to me. Each of the passengers on Flight 828 were programmed to receive broadcast signals (by and from some unknown entity) using their own individually-coded brainwave receptors. In short, without knowing it, each passenger has his or her own unlisted private phone number. 

That theory would cover the 828 passengers. But what about Zeke and Griffin? Of course, the same theory applies. Something is happening and dark lightning is behind it. Dark lightning is causing time to stand still for those directly affected. And allows the minds of individuals to be reprogrammed, and or their bodies to be enhanced and cloned with expiration dates ... by something or someone. 

Dark lightning itself didn't do the reprogramming nor is it broadcasting the callings. Someone else is responsible ... and I don't think it's the Major or the government. This is why I love Manifest. It's addictively intriguing and intellectually thought-provoking. And it continues to have the potential to become one of the best science fiction/supernatural series in television broadcast history. So, please ... please ... please ... please Jeff Rake, don't screw it up. 


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Jun 17, 2019 4:03 pm  

We still don't know who or what is behind allegedly using dark lightning as a time-travel tool. Or whether dark lightning is simply a side-effect of the tool that's being used to cause time-travel.

More important, what is the relationship between who or what is causing dark lightning to who or what is responsible for the implementation of "callings?" Or perhaps, there is no relationship at all?


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Jun 29, 2019 3:54 pm  

How will science be used to explain the role of dark lightning in season 2? Here's an interesting short video from NASA explaining the science behind dark lightning? Does the Major have a NASA representative of her staff?

What would happen if dark lightning takes place on a Ley line ... or in the vicinity of a Ley line?

Ley lines /l lnz/ are apparent alignments of landmarks, religious sites, and man-made structures. The pseudoscientific belief that these apparent lines are not accidental speculates that they are straight navigable paths and have spiritual significance.

The Ley line map provided here shows the possibility that Flight 828, Zeke Landon, and James Griffin could all have been affected by dark lightning and Ley lines. I know what some of you are thinking. Why am I so obsessed with what's happening with Manifest?  

The answer is simple. I love science fiction. And Manifest is the only series on the networks of its unique genre. I want more entertainment involving the science fiction/supernatural ingredients than what's happening with the continuous overwhelming conflict-filled recycled soap opera drama.

Yes, I want more dark lightning ... Ley lines ... time-travel ... or whatever. Just give me some good quality science fiction and I'm content. I'm very easy to please.

But I already know that I'll be disappointed. No matter what I or anyone else think. The main focus of the show will continue to be on how the characters interact and react to their own individual personal failings and successes. Not on what happened to the passengers on Flight 828, how it happened, why it happened, and who made it happen. 


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May 26, 2020 9:23 pm  

This is what I wrote about dark lightning on this topic over a year ago:

 It's time to start connecting the dark lightning and callings dots in season 2, not in season 3 or beyond.

Nothing significant was revealed about dark lightning in season 2; not even when it was suggested that dark lightning was responsible for breaking the ice on the lake where the hopelessly weak and near-death Zeke managed to miraculously save Cal's life. This was also when dark lightning allegedly caused the three bufoonish Meth head criminal shadows to magically disappear.

Other than on the lake, dark lightning was a no-show in season 2 ... except in callings. Yet no dark lightning/callings connections were ever revealed. When it comes to entertainment, science fiction is my favorite genre because sci-fi writers have the creative ability to make the impossible easily seem possible. That is, in a perfect world, producers of sci-fi are able to creatively connect the dots and juggle different balls ... without dropping any of the balls.

When Ben tells Fiona about dark lightning and how it could have affected the plane, Fiona says that whatever did happen was “a step in our evolution” (111.12)

Ben told Fiona Clarke that dark lightning could have affected the plane? Were the callings experienced by the passengers as a result of what happened on the plane also "a step" in Clarke's sudden evolution revelation? How is dark lightning connected to the callings? If sci-fi fans haven't been provided any more information about how dark lightning and callings are connected after two seasons, why should fans expect "the impossible to be made possible" in the future.

When it takes more than two seasons for the major plots within a story to develop, something's wrong. When the showrunner keeps telling fans what to watch for next season, something's wrong. Yes. I'm intrigued with what's happening on the series. And, yes. I continue to want the show to be successful. But something's wrong. Storytelling is not difficult until the teller of the story intentionally makes the telling of the story difficult.


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