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(@lakesinclair)
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Mar 31, 2020 12:35 pm  

The subplots and twists of "Manifest" are so complex that it may be unlikely for new viewers to get into the series.  Think about "The West Wing" - all a new viewer had to do was to figure each character's role in the White House and they could pick the series up in the middle and enjoy it.  But anyone who tries to do that with "Manifest" is likely to be so confused that they won't stay with the show.  That means that viewership is unlikely to grow from this point on - it'll only shrink as the current fans drop off for various reasons.  I understand that this season, live viewership is down but delayed viewership remains strong so we may get a third season, but I'd like to see it go through July 2, 2024 and I don't know how likely that may be.


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Mar 31, 2020 12:51 pm  

Okay. The episode depicting July 2, 2024 would be very interesting. I suppose Olive and Jared would be there. Saanvi, since she cured herself. Maybe it would be a panel discussion about their former friends and family. Eden would be there but probably wouldn't have much to say. Probably just sitting in Olive's lap. Grace? nah. She and Danny would be on a trip somewhere, probably SCUBA diving. Yep July 2, 2024 would be a pretty boring day.

I'm just joking with you @LakeSinclair, I know you meant June 2, 2024. Your other points a probably correct. I don't really have a comment about "The West Wing" or the complexity of "Manifest."


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Mar 31, 2020 12:58 pm  

Yup - June 2; sorry.  But speaking of the "death date" - if it's a hard and fast death date, how were a number of 828 passengers able to die early in the nightclub fire?  (I guess that's probably been covered in another thread, huh?)


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Mar 31, 2020 2:15 pm  

if it's a hard and fast death date, how were a number of 828 passengers able to die early in the nightclub fire?

The death date doesn't appear to be hard and fast. Finn Nowak and other passengers died in the nightclub fire. Kelly Taylor was murdered. Harvey Stein committed suicide. If any passenger doesn't die before his or her time, I'm guessing the June 2, 2024 death date would be considered their irrevocable last day to live. Period. But I'm only guessing.

The subplots and twists of "Manifest" are so complex that it may be unlikely for new viewers to get into the series.

I agree. And it doesn't help when all of the newly added subplots and twists keep getting even more complex.

Think about the "West Wing"

You're correct. Unlike Manifest, series like the West Wing base their characters on well-defined organizational structure. The strength of the actors portraying the characters (and brilliant writers) is what made West Wing successful. Unfortunately, Manifest lacks structure with it comes to its characters and mythology. Nothing about the show's characters and mythology has been coherently defined or fully developed.

Manifest is caught between a rock and a hard place

I also agree that Manifest has a dilemma. In order to attract new viewers, the show needs to drastically reset its original premise, i.e., the mystery of a missing commercial plane to something else. (Or make the original premise of the story immediately happen). Instead of being titled Manifest, the show could be re-titled Miracle or Mystery ... "the passengers who miraculously returned from the supernatural unknown." If a reset did happen; the loyal, old viewers would probably stop watching.

Sci-fi series like Lost and Star Trek had excellent showrunners and outstanding writers. Which made the difference between being great and mediocre.

@LakeSinclair @MaryGrace


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