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(@tjlevi)
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23/06/2019 11:13 am  

Why should Grace Stone and her 3 children leave Ben Stone and become family with Danny? To answer that, first we need to look at the "Danny" character as he has been portrayed and not what we make up in our minds. We have no indication that he is a con man, a predator, or as some have suggested a pedophile. We have indications that he is kind, gentle, wise, caring, and loving. He is a handsome, fit man who is athletic. He enjoys SCUBA diving, golf, rock climbing, mountain biking, and is an outdoorsman.

He is a man who has suffered tragedy in his life, losing his wife and thought he would be alone the rest of his life until he met Grace Stone, a presumed widow and woman who has lost a child. He was kind to Grace and her daughter, Olive. Helped them through difficult times and eventually began a romantic relationship with Grace and is a surrogate father to Olive. All perfectly natural under the circumstances. He took them on trips. Offered them opportunities that may have not had, example SCUBA diving and rock climbing.

By all indications he is very affluent based on his hobbies, automobiles, and basic leisurely lifestyle. Some wonder why Grace and Olive did not move to his place of residence as we can assume it Is a much better place. I think Danny, out of respect, allowed Grace to make that decision and I feel she was not ready to leave her home at this time. Some wonder about why there has been not mention of Danny’s last name. Perhaps Daniel Sunjata, who plays Danny, is playing himself. His profession is an actor. Perhaps the original intent of the character was to only be in a few episodes and then be out of the picture. At the end of the day, what difference does it make whether we know his last name or now. The last name will be relevant when Grace decides to divorce Ben Stone and marry Danny.

Why Grace Stone should leave and divorce Ben Stone. Ben is NOT the man she knew before the plane disappeared. He is totally obsessed with the “why” of the plane disappearing and the time anomaly that it caused. He is unemployed and has no intention of being employed, choosing instead to let Grace fund his obsession. The only job he took was to gather information about his quest. He leaves his wife and sick child at the hospital at a critical time, he keeps secrets from her, leaves his family to participate in a police matter at Red Hook and endangers his son, leaves at all hours of the night, and has no understanding of what Grace’s life has been like losing a husband and child under mysterious circumstances. The only interest Ben has in his children is what they can help him with in solving the “mystery.” There is more but suffice it to say, Ben is put his quest about his family and does not deserve to be a husband and father any longer.

From the first date for meatloaf to the latest goodbye at the Stone residence, Danny has shown nothing but kindness and compassion for Grace and let her know that he will be there for her and Olive anytime and anywhere. He loves them both deeply. When the plane arrived, he knew Grace was in for some difficult times and out of love and compassion he gathered his things and stepped aside with her assurance that she was going to tell Ben about their relationship and dissolve the marriage which did not happen. Grace Stone decided, for some reason, to try and put her marriage back together. This decision has led to nothing but heartache for her and Danny. It seems that in the cabin when they found Zeke, Grace bought into the notion that Ben was only trying to protect the family. Protect the family from what?

Conclusion: In the real world, Grace would have gone to the airport by herself, told Ben she was marrying another man that she has fallen in love with, told Ben to go live with his Father, collected her son and gone home. When the plane landed and she was notified, she should have immediately filed divorce proceedings. Danny should have never left and perhaps accompanied her to the airport to collect her son. Having said that, this show is in no way based in reality nor based on what real life actually is. The goal is to stretch it into a 5 year series, not to pursue answers to the disappearance mysteries but to have never ending human relationship tragedies in order to maintain ratings. A great show is about to go down in flames because the showrunner and writers are neglecting the story and premise of the show.


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23/06/2019 11:31 am  

I agree, Danny would make a much better father and a husband to Grace than the "Ben" who returned. Ben is not the same guy Grace married. Danny has been sleeping with Grace for quite some time and until recently the sex has been protected. The evidence of the unused condom suggests strongly that Grace and Danny planned this pregnancy as a way to start their life together. Although there is no evidence, it is highly probable that Grace and Danny have engaged is sex even after the plane arrived, specifically on the day of the shoplifting incident which has been discussed and the circumstantial evidence is strong.  In every scene with Danny and Grace you can see the longing and desire on her face. She longs to spread her legs for Danny. Grace needs to move Ben out and move Danny back in and put her "happily ever after" back together again. Whether or not this will take two of the main characters off the show remains to be seen but bottom line that Grace and Danny need to continue to connect under the sheets and get on with it.


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(@charles)
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24/06/2019 5:40 am  

To answer that, first we need to look at the "Danny" character as he has been portrayed and not what we make up in our minds.

Agreed. However, the problem is that everything that has been portrayed about Danny is why some of us have made up in our minds about him. The reasoning: nothing about Danny's life story has ever been verified. Only bits and pieces about him or his alleged life have been revealed.

How his wife died (if it actually happened) would have been a good place to start. Other than that. Whether right or wrong, I solely base my own personal opinions of what I think about Danny on the "actual" on-screen dialogue that's delivered by his character.

By all indications he is very affluent based on his hobbies, automobiles, and basic leisurely lifestyle.

Is he really wealthy and affluent? Or is this simply part of the writer's "shades of gray" storytelling? Perhaps he's an actor ... playing himself? Or perhaps his character is possibly someone who's pretending to be someone he's not? For someone who's so important to two of the main characters in the show (Grace and Olive), what we factually know about Danny's character ... based on dialogue that's contained in written episode scripts ... is basically next to nothing.

Who knows what the writer's will do with Danny's character. If what happened to Fiona Clarke's character an example of what will happen to Danny's character, then I'll be Happy!

The goal is to stretch it into a 5 year series, not to pursue answers to the disappearance mysteries but to have never ending human relationship tragedies in order to maintain ratings.

Again, I agree. Jeff Rake enjoys comparing Manifest to Lost. But Manifest is no Lost. Lost was presented as a series of stories which used storytelling to paint a much larger and wider worldview from the audience's perspective. Manifest has been confined and mainly limited to stories and a few different locations in and around New York City.

A great show is about to go down in flames because the showrunner and writers are neglecting the story and premise of the show.

I concur. What happened to the passengers during their disappearance and return is the engine that's driving the Manifest train. Not the overuse of love triangles and other soap opera plots like the upcoming baby mamma drama storyline. IMO if a course correction isn't made in season 2 ... there will be no season 3.

At the end of the day, what difference does it make whether we know his last name or now. The last name will be relevant when Grace decides to divorce Ben Stone and marry Danny.

His last name makes a difference to me. Characters in television series without last names are not considered relevant or important. But that's JMO ... and perhaps mine alone. Then too, perhaps Daniel Sunjata's character's last name will not make a difference because his character will be killed off the show... just like his character with no last name (Simon) was killed off the show in season 2 of Happy!


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25/06/2019 1:34 pm  

In addition to my previous post ... 

After the season finale, I've had time to think and reflect about what happened and is happening to the characters and their storylines. I have my own opinions ... as do others who are paying attention ... but it's up to the showrunner and writers to deliver the goods.

Thus far, IMO, they've been insisting that the fans either love the extreme doses of soap opera drama that's presented on-screen or change the channel ... all because they're rigidly sticking to their originally scripted 6-year plan ... no matter what.

I'm no fan of Danny's character. However, I don't hold it against those who support his character's role in Grace and Olive's lives. I simply see him differently than his supporters. But when it comes to the Case for Danny, I have more questions than answers.

He leaves his wife and sick child at the hospital at a critical time

To be honest and objective, if he hadn't left and visited Robert Vance ... who then made inquiries ... which lead to the end of Marko Valeriev's being torturously experimented on ... which in fact did save Cal's life. What would have happened if Ben hasn't left his wife and sick child?

 Grace was in for some difficult times and out of love and compassion he gathered his things and stepped aside with her assurance that she was going to tell Ben about their relationship and dissolve the marriage which did not happen.

So, the plan was to wait and tell Ben about their relationship? Ironic isn't it. As soon as Ben finds out about "the relationship," Grace immediately ... and without hesitating ... cuckolds Danny by engaging in some horizontal refreshment with Ben ... and then tells Danny to go to hell.

How much more difficult would it get if Grace ended up divorcing Ben and marrying Danny?

  1. What about Cal? Would he be happy? Would Ben be given visitation rights? Or would he want full custody of Cal? Will Grace and Danny be able to protect him from the unscrupulous Major and her henchmen? 
  2. Would Ben be off the hook for helping to pay back the $500,000 survivor's benefit insurance payment Grace received? Or would Danny say "no problem" and simply write a check?
  3. Grace knows about Ben and Cal's June 2, 2024 expiration date. She also knows about the callings and the 828-haters who would do Ben and Cal harm. What would a mother and wife ex-wife do ... fight or flight

I'm not arguing for or against Grace and Danny ending up married. I'm just asking questions. Perhaps MaryGrace is absolutely correct: "... bottom line that Grace and Danny need to continue to connect under the sheets and get on with it."


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